if it wasn't for the KO it would have been a very boring fight. A la round 1.
I disagree - it wasnt boring. It depends what You expect. If You want to see show i recomend You going to the circus or WWF If You want to see slugfest i recomend You to go to cinema for next part of Rambo
This fight was good, i know not too many punches, but awesome footwork, and lesson of tactic inside octagon.
I just don't want to watch constant running like kalib starnes vs nate quarry, i want to watch a fight that has a lot of action like Gsp vs Matt Serra. Admitingly not all fights have to be interesting but if that fight is the main show they should put some more fight into it. If the KO was not there and it was a unanimous decision it would have been a boring fight.
i think it was a real good fight all the way up to the knockout.. i couldnt ask for a better display of kickboxing on all levels; approach, striking, counters.. rashad impressed me.. i hate rashad, always have, always found his fights to be lacklusters.. but he put on a good one vs. chuck and landed a beauty
i def have to disagree with you tho.. i know i didnt see any running in the octagon in this fight, i dont know anyone else who saw any runnin either.. the fight had the makings of a beaut if it went to decision, woulda been an awesome clinic in mma standup.. but it wouldnt have, the way rashad was willing to stand and bang, if he didnt ko chuck then chuck surely woulda ko'd him before the end of round 3, chuck was basically smothering evans around the close edges of the cage.. having chuck liddell have u trapped that close to the cage isnt going to be comfortable for anybody. he did an awesome job landing that blow when he did.
i just hate how chuck doesnt cover up conventionally.. he keeps his hands too low lookin for the uppercut or that awkward right overhand which is more like a fuckin weird powerful straight hook.. anyway, i was disappointed since chuck is up there on my favorite fighters list, but it happens. that shot was perfect, so kudos to evans. i hope chuck bounces back somehow
Wow, I read the results on yahoo but it didn't do it justice. I had chuck to win by TKO, I guess Rashad felt different. Chuck will be feeling that for a few days.
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Posted:
10.09.2008, 10:49
bra-dude wrote:
Dnicest wrote:
bra-dude wrote:
Fuck....I guess that's what they mean by a puncher's chance. Pure domination By Liddell, before the shot heard round' the octogon.
Pure domination!? WTF
I don’t know what fight you were watching … the first round BARELY made it for chuck so I say that’s a 10-9 round chuck… the second round rashad hit it with 3 different combinations before he even threw that “lucky shot”….
Rashad is a beast… I wish all you chuck nut huggers would realize that….. you don’t win 17 fights in a row for no reason ya feel me…. Chuck is still one of my favorite fighters he goes out there either willing to get knocked out or knocking motha fuckers out… usually he’s not on the short end of the stick…. He just got caught by a perfectly timed overhand right
Whats next for rashad…. Hmmmm I say rampage, franklin, machida… the possibilities are endless
I don't know who you're calling a "nut-hugger". That term is getting thrown around here, like Tara Reid's vagina. The only reason I wanted Chuck to win here, is that I wanted Evans to lose. I can't stand a cocky fighter. Chuck won every exchange in round 1. Just wait untill Rashad's 1st loss. I think it will all go downhill. I don't have to resort to name calling, to express my opinion. That's what a mma forum is for right??
Let me rephrase then… you aren’t a nut hugger… sorry for calling you a name… no offense was meant by it… I know what you mean though I am a big big lidell fan.. I even had him winning a second round TKO at UFC.com… but rashad is a beast! I cant deny that…..
You said that you don’t like cocky fighters… lidell was/is a cocky fighter…. Maybe he’s not a show boater but definitely cocky…..
Anyway he lost and his best bet to get back to where he wants to be would be to fight rich franklin! Because that would catapult him back into the ranks because – rich has a name, he’s a great fighter with a great record…. And a victory for chuck would show that he can dominate a faster fighter, however rich might be rashad’s next fight if he doesn’t get a title shot…..
Fuck....I guess that's what they mean by a puncher's chance. Pure domination By Liddell, before the shot heard round' the octogon.
Pure domination!? WTF
I don’t know what fight you were watching … the first round BARELY made it for chuck so I say that’s a 10-9 round chuck… the second round rashad hit it with 3 different combinations before he even threw that “lucky shot”….
Rashad is a beast… I wish all you chuck nut huggers would realize that….. you don’t win 17 fights in a row for no reason ya feel me…. Chuck is still one of my favorite fighters he goes out there either willing to get knocked out or knocking motha fuckers out… usually he’s not on the short end of the stick…. He just got caught by a perfectly timed overhand right
Whats next for rashad…. Hmmmm I say rampage, franklin, machida… the possibilities are endless
I don't know who you're calling a "nut-hugger". That term is getting thrown around here, like Tara Reid's vagina. The only reason I wanted Chuck to win here, is that I wanted Evans to lose. I can't stand a cocky fighter. Chuck won every exchange in round 1. Just wait untill Rashad's 1st loss. I think it will all go downhill. I don't have to resort to name calling, to express my opinion. That's what a mma forum is for right??
Let me rephrase then… you aren’t a nut hugger… sorry for calling you a name… no offense was meant by it… I know what you mean though I am a big big lidell fan.. I even had him winning a second round TKO at UFC.com… but rashad is a beast! I cant deny that…..
You said that you don’t like cocky fighters… lidell was/is a cocky fighter…. Maybe he’s not a show boater but definitely cocky…..
Anyway he lost and his best bet to get back to where he wants to be would be to fight rich franklin! Because that would catapult him back into the ranks because – rich has a name, he’s a great fighter with a great record…. And a victory for chuck would show that he can dominate a faster fighter, however rich might be rashad’s next fight if he doesn’t get a title shot…..
Right on. I have to also root for the founders of the modern age of MMA. It sucks, because all of the fighters that I loved are getting up there in age. They're bound to start losing. Tank, royce, Wanderlei,Liddell,Shamrock, they're all passing their prime.
Rashad is a showboat. It seems like he has no respect for the sport. Chuck is a bit cocky, but he doesn't really talk shit. ( Well exept to Tito)
Hell, Evans was even an ass on tuf. He got chewed out, and hasn't learned his lesson. He is a good fighter, but I certainly won't stand behind him.
In 5 years, who do you think will be the next "it" fighter? I have huerta, and to my regret, Machida.
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Posted:
11.09.2008, 08:28
bra-dude wrote:
Dnicest wrote:
bra-dude wrote:
Dnicest wrote:
bra-dude wrote:
Fuck....I guess that's what they mean by a puncher's chance. Pure domination By Liddell, before the shot heard round' the octogon.
Pure domination!? WTF
I don’t know what fight you were watching … the first round BARELY made it for chuck so I say that’s a 10-9 round chuck… the second round rashad hit it with 3 different combinations before he even threw that “lucky shot”….
Rashad is a beast… I wish all you chuck nut huggers would realize that….. you don’t win 17 fights in a row for no reason ya feel me…. Chuck is still one of my favorite fighters he goes out there either willing to get knocked out or knocking motha fuckers out… usually he’s not on the short end of the stick…. He just got caught by a perfectly timed overhand right
Whats next for rashad…. Hmmmm I say rampage, franklin, machida… the possibilities are endless
I don't know who you're calling a "nut-hugger". That term is getting thrown around here, like Tara Reid's vagina. The only reason I wanted Chuck to win here, is that I wanted Evans to lose. I can't stand a cocky fighter. Chuck won every exchange in round 1. Just wait untill Rashad's 1st loss. I think it will all go downhill. I don't have to resort to name calling, to express my opinion. That's what a mma forum is for right??
Let me rephrase then… you aren’t a nut hugger… sorry for calling you a name… no offense was meant by it… I know what you mean though I am a big big lidell fan.. I even had him winning a second round TKO at UFC.com… but rashad is a beast! I cant deny that…..
You said that you don’t like cocky fighters… lidell was/is a cocky fighter…. Maybe he’s not a show boater but definitely cocky…..
Anyway he lost and his best bet to get back to where he wants to be would be to fight rich franklin! Because that would catapult him back into the ranks because – rich has a name, he’s a great fighter with a great record…. And a victory for chuck would show that he can dominate a faster fighter, however rich might be rashad’s next fight if he doesn’t get a title shot…..
Right on. I have to also root for the founders of the modern age of MMA. It sucks, because all of the fighters that I loved are getting up there in age. They're bound to start losing. Tank, royce, Wanderlei,Liddell,Shamrock, they're all passing their prime.
Rashad is a showboat. It seems like he has no respect for the sport. Chuck is a bit cocky, but he doesn't really talk shit. ( Well exept to Tito)
Hell, Evans was even an ass on tuf. He got chewed out, and hasn't learned his lesson. He is a good fighter, but I certainly won't stand behind him.
In 5 years, who do you think will be the next "it" fighter? I have huerta, and to my regret, Machida.
the next it fighter... hmmmm i would have to say in 205 class will be either rich franklin or machida... in the lightweight div in the future it will be nate diaz but right now its bj for a while, welter wieght... gsp's reign will be long and tuff, but john fitch will be back up there... and i see karo makin a comeback for some reason... middle wieght ... no one till anderson silva leaves.... heavy is mos def brock lesnar in about 3or 4 years....
In 5 years it will probably be some fighter we haven't heard of yet or isn't man stream.
Chuck was basically beat at his own game. Chuck is a counter striker, which works when your hands are faster than the guy standing across from you. Rashad has faster hands, I can't stand the guy, but he is fast. If you watch the KO, Rashad fakes a left jab (not so much a fake as much as it was to distract Chuck), which causes Chuck to try a counter punch, and Rashad throws the bomb overhand right. Lights out.
I think Chuck was expecting Rashad to shoot and try and GnP him. Like Rashad said in the ring after the fight, you can't beat Chuck trying to take him down, you have to beat him at his own game.
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11.09.2008, 15:46
rumple wrote:
In 5 years it will probably be some fighter we haven't heard of yet or isn't man stream.
Chuck was basically beat at his own game. Chuck is a counter striker, which works when your hands are faster than the guy standing across from you. Rashad has faster hands, I can't stand the guy, but he is fast. If you watch the KO, Rashad fakes a left jab (not so much a fake as much as it was to distract Chuck), which causes Chuck to try a counter punch, and Rashad throws the bomb overhand right. Lights out.
I think Chuck was expecting Rashad to shoot and try and GnP him. Like Rashad said in the ring after the fight, you can't beat Chuck trying to take him down, you have to beat him at his own game.
Word man you said it the best… rashad is hella quick… and hard to catch… I noticed that lil fake jab… I don’t even know if it was a jab or a cock back…. Lol… but either way he did beat chuck at his own game…. If you notice the first round rashad was the aggressor thus losing the first round… at the end of the round we saw that change and he started countering, that is when he beat chuck at his own game… he lured him in with a few combo’s that would have knocked lesser fighters to the ground… and chuck kept on the attack… he got too over zealous…. It happens… the sky is the limit for showboat evans… lidell has little time to revise his fighting strategies…..
Lhw division is stacked though so it’s a tuff road for rashad… and seeing as how the MW division is at a standstill till silva loses rashad should just stay put
This is my first post. I have been on this site for a while and really didnt say anything. But, it seems like you guys always pick the most popular fighter. Look at the fighters. Rashad is undefeated for a reason. Chuck was the poster boy for the UFC for the longest. Once he lost to Rampage and then Jardine it was over for Chuck. Alot of you will hate me for this but to be honest Chuck Liddell will never hold a title again. Rashad didnt get lucky he beat Chuck at his own game (Stand Up) Everyone know Rashad is a wrestler but not one take down attempt give the man his respect.
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Posted:
16.09.2008, 09:00
Biznis wrote:
This is my first post. I have been on this site for a while and really didnt say anything. But, it seems like you guys always pick the most popular fighter. Look at the fighters. Rashad is undefeated for a reason. Chuck was the poster boy for the UFC for the longest. Once he lost to Rampage and then Jardine it was over for Chuck. Alot of you will hate me for this but to be honest Chuck Liddell will never hold a title again. Rashad didnt get lucky he beat Chuck at his own game (Stand Up) Everyone know Rashad is a wrestler but not one take down attempt give the man his respect.
I thoroughly agree yo…. Chuck was dominated.. I only picked chuck to win because he is one of my favorite fighters to watch.. always puts on an exciting fight win or lose ya feel me…. But yeah he got handled…. If he wants to start winning he needs to change his plan of attack
This is my first post. I have been on this site for a while and really didnt say anything. But, it seems like you guys always pick the most popular fighter. Look at the fighters. Rashad is undefeated for a reason. Chuck was the poster boy for the UFC for the longest. Once he lost to Rampage and then Jardine it was over for Chuck. Alot of you will hate me for this but to be honest Chuck Liddell will never hold a title again. Rashad didnt get lucky he beat Chuck at his own game (Stand Up) Everyone know Rashad is a wrestler but not one take down attempt give the man his respect.
I thoroughly agree yo…. Chuck was dominated.. I only picked chuck to win because he is one of my favorite fighters to watch.. always puts on an exciting fight win or lose ya feel me…. But yeah he got handled…. If he wants to start winning he needs to change his plan of attack
I dont know man. Who can chuck fight next that will be a big money fight? I really dont see anyone. THe only one I can think of is Chuck vs a healthy Shogun thats it what do you guys think is next for Chuck.
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17.09.2008, 08:33
I think chucks best bet will be rich franklin… that will be a great selling fight… two of the most celebrated MMA fighters in the UFC… franklin is trying to work his way up and so is lidell… that will be an awesome fight I know I’d pay for that card yo…. Lol…. But I think that will be his best bet.. either that or a rematch with jardine… since they are both coming off a loss….
I think chucks best bet will be rich franklin… that will be a great selling fight… two of the most celebrated MMA fighters in the UFC… franklin is trying to work his way up and so is lidell… that will be an awesome fight I know I’d pay for that card yo…. Lol…. But I think that will be his best bet.. either that or a rematch with jardine… since they are both coming off a loss….
I want to see Jardine vs Rampage. Or a Rampage Silva 3 what yall think
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